The Burn Bag Podcast

Ret. General Stanley McChrystal on Character, Fear, Leadership, Polarization, and More

In this episode, A’ndre speaks with retired four-star General Stanley McChrystal, former commander of Joint Special Operations Command and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. Widely recognized for revolutionizing modern counterinsurgency strategy and interagency counterterrorism operations, McChrystal reflects on a lifetime of leadership, failure, resilience, and personal growth through the lens of his new book, On Character: Choices That Define a Life.

The conversation begins with McChrystal’s reflections on the defining moment of his resignation from the military and how it reshaped his understanding of identity, accountability, and integrity. He speaks candidly about navigating fear and how it presents itself in warfare and political polarization. General McChrystal also discusses leadership and accountability, drawing on the examples of prior military leaders such as General Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Topics covered include:

  • The personal reckoning after his resignation and how it redefined his understanding of character
  • Leading through fear, uncertainty, and moral complexity
  • How belief systems and perception shape conflict, politics, and leadership
  • Bridging division in a polarized society and restoring trust through integrity

You can purchase On Character here.

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